Hello Loyalist Residents,

NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING. STORAGE AND PARKING OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLES…

Hello Loyalist Residents,

Loyalist Township is currently reviewing the Township’s Zoning By-law restrictions related to the storage and parking of recreational vehicles, including motor homes and boats.

WHEN…MONDAY, JUNE 5, 2017
WHAT TIME…7:00 PM
WHERE..ERNESTOWN SECONDARY SCHOOL 50 MAIN STREET, ODESSA

If you would like to give your input now is the time.
For more information Click HERE

Background Information

On Monday, January 23rd, 3 members of the LCCRA executive and several Loyalist residents attended the public meeting at the Council Chambers to hear a presentation on the potential changes to the by-law affecting parking and storage of special vehicles (i.e. motor homes, boats, camper trailers and snowmobiles) on residential driveways. You can see the Township’s report, the existing by-law and summary of the options being considered  by clicking the links below.

The meeting was packed – there was standing room only. Several residents stood up to present their views. About half the speakers spoke in favour of amending the by-law to allow their trailers, RVs etc to be parked on their driveway. Most of these speakers implied that they would like to see the by-law removed so that they could park all year round. The remaining speakers spoke in favour of leaving the by-law untouched or allowing temporary parking (4 days a month). One resident recommended that the township modify the by-law street by street according to a majority (60%) of the street’s residents (the consensus option).

After some debate, Council passed a motion proposed by Ed Daniliunas (our local councilor) which requires the township staff to modify the options and bring forward to Council for final resolution. The motion contained 3 options:

  1. Leave the by-law as is; i.e. no parking on residential driveways allowed for special vehicles.
  2. Add the consensus option. Township staff would have to work out how to implement this.
  3. Include option 3; i.e. allow temporary parking of special vehicles for 4 days each month.

We would urge you to e-mail your opinion to the Township, Andrea Furniss (AFurniss@loyalist.ca) with a copy to Ed Daniliunas (councillor_ed@live.ca) as soon as possible so that Council can consider these before making its final decision.

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January 6th, we sent out a message about a township meeting regarding the storage of motor homes and boats on private property. Since then we have received a report from the Township (Andrea Furniss) identifying the options that the Township is considering. 

We would encourage you to read the report (Click the links below). It will provide more details of the options, the source of the request for the change in the by-law as well as the relevant section of the existing by-law.

In summary, the five options are:

  1. Do nothing. Leave the by-law as it stands today; i.e. motor homes, boats, travel trailers, travel campers and snowmobiles must be stored in a garage or other building and not on your driveway.
  2. Allow temporary parking of the above vehicles on your driveway for up to 72 hours a month.
  3. Allow temporary parking of the above vehicles on your driveway for up to 4 days a month
  4. Allow seasonal parking of the above vehicles on your driveway from April 1st to October 31st
  5. Allow permanent parking of the above on your driveway all year.

The Township is holding a public meeting to consider  these five options with a view to amending the current by-law covering the residential storage of trailers. These options will be discussed at the meeting.

Zoning Options for the Storage of Special Vehicles   (Proposed options 8 Pages)

Loyalist Township Zoning By Law Storage of Special Vehicles – 8361-04  (2 Page Summary from General Provisions)

Loyalist Township Zoning By Law General Provisions – 8361-04     (41 Pages)

23 Comments, RSS

  • N valensky

    says on:
    January 10, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    Leave the regulations the way they are!

  • Dave Stewart

    says on:
    January 10, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    I dont like the idea of parking recreationAL vehicles in the driveway at any time. There should be places for people to store them when not in use.I will not be able to attend meeting as we are away.

  • Heather Fear

    says on:
    January 10, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    One of the reasons I moved to Loyalist Estates was because it doesn’t allow parking of ‘whatever the hell you want in your driveway’. The neighbourhood I left (in Kingston) was a free-for-all with parking of any sort of thing in the driveway or on the street for however long your neighbour felt it necessary (dump the port-potty down the storm-sewer, shades of “Christmas Vacation”! Maybe it’s Ok when you own a farm to park whatever whereever you please, but it doesn’t affect anyone else nor your property values. What’s next? Chickens?
    The hell with that, I’m getting goats.

  • Robert Fraser

    says on:
    January 10, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    One of the reasons that I bought property in Bath was because the properties were mostly clean and clear of old vehicles, RVs and large trailers. I am strongly opposed to any change in the By-Law that would permit the storage of RVs and boats in the front of the property, other than for loading purposes.
    Any change to this By-Law could devalue my property and spoil the clean uncluttered view that we currently have at Loyalist.
    I am currently in South Carolina for three months but can be reached by e-mail or phone at 843-448-7032 apt 1102, if there is anything else that I could do to express my opposition to any change to this By-Law.
    Thank you for your consideration.

  • Anne Jukes-Hughes

    says on:
    January 10, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    I wish to give number one as my choice. Wishing that rule to remain in force.
    Any other choice will destroy the Golf Club’s esthic beauty and undermine its continuing financial growth.
    Anne Jukes-Hughes

  • Anne Jukes-Hughes

    says on:
    January 10, 2017 at 5:58 pm

    I wish to remain with the Number one Suggestion. Any other idea would destroy the beauty of the Golf Course and cause financial disruption.
    Anne Jukes-Hughes

  • Paul Spooner

    says on:
    January 10, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    I would prefer that the bylaw stands as it is presently. We do not have large properties and a large trailer or boat on someone’s driveway would be an imposition on the whole neighbourhood let alone the next door neighbour. If trailers and boats are allowed then next it will be the tractors of the transports, school buses and large dump trucks. If it can’t fit in the garage then it shouldn’t be allowed in a residential area. So I am totally against changing the present bylaw.

  • Jack Soule

    says on:
    January 10, 2017 at 11:39 pm

    What is the current stipulation regarding this issue within the Loyalist Country Club community?
    Is it the same as shown for the Township, or are there separate provisions?

    • Linda McCormack

      says on:
      March 5, 2017 at 7:38 pm

      All Loyalist Estates residents sign a covenant when they buy a new home. It prohibits the parking of trailers, motor homes, boats and campers in their driveway.

  • Gene clevenger

    says on:
    January 11, 2017 at 5:00 am

    I would vote for a seasonal parking in the driveway. We have a small unobtrusive camper that would be used one or two times a week. Parking off site is expensive and a fuel waste requiring commuting to and from the off site parking among other things. Our camper is no longer than a large pickup truck. If you bansmall campers you should ban large pickup trucks…

  • Lorne Sarmiento

    says on:
    January 11, 2017 at 8:40 am

    I think we should maintain the existing policy

  • Lorne Sarmiento

    says on:
    January 11, 2017 at 8:44 am

    We should maintain the existing policy.

  • Joe &Dorothy Ryan

    says on:
    January 11, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    1. leave the law the way it is.
    This should apply to all recreational vehicles & any other types of motorized vehicles or equipment used for business eg hot dog cart, plumbers, electricians, carpenters home renovations vehicles.
    It is an eyesore in neighbourhoods.

    nb. Why is survey being done this time of the year when quite a few residents are out of country?
    Should have been done in May or September.

  • russell hartrick

    says on:
    January 12, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    leave as is.

  • Richard Green

    says on:
    January 13, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Leave the bylaw as is.

  • Richard Green

    says on:
    January 13, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    Leave the bylaw as is.!!

  • John Berezny

    says on:
    January 13, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    Leave existing bylaw. But allow 24 hours to load and unload .

  • Art Keir

    says on:
    January 16, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    Maintain existing by-law but include recreational and business trailers as not being allowed.
    Would not object to a 48 hour preparation time for motor homes.

  • Paul Thomson

    says on:
    January 22, 2017 at 11:43 am

    I am not sure why the township staff are insisting on a single solution for the entire municipality . This is the same way they approached transit options for Bath a couple of years ago when they said it had to be the same arrangement as Amherstview has with Kingston transit rather than looking at other options such as a request for proposal to receive both public and private proposals.

    Regarding RV and boat parking, It strikes me that there is no particular need to have a universal regulation that applies to the entire municipality. Why not at least consider village or community covenants that could be used a basis for any by-law changes. Like most of you, I don’t want some person parking a 60 foot bus in their driveway next to my house all year or even all season long, but if a plurality of folks in other parts of the municipality think it’s okay, who are we to say no. While having separate wards for each councillor can have adverse effects on municipal decision-making at times, this is one instance where I would suggest that our representative on council could poll his constituents and suggest solutions that are in the best interests of the village of Bath and the immediate surrounding area. Would it really be so difficult to have a different policy in Odessa, Wilton or Amherstview if those folks felt differently. Also, let’s face it, this is an urban/suburban land use issue and likely not applicable to the rural parts of the township so why should they be forced to follow the same rules.

    If there is insistence on a single option, I would caution against pushing the status quo as it may only lead to fractious disputes between neighbours. We already know there are folks who do not follow the existing by-law. A couple of people have suggested 24 and 48 hours options which would likely limit the grief. I would not even have a problem with the 72 hours option. I might also suggest the township consider a modest tag fee for each 72 hour parking occurrence. Not only would it provide tiny bit of revenue, it would give them data which might be useful for future considerations.

  • Sally McCulloch

    says on:
    January 24, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    Leave the rules the way they were. Ie. No boats, trailers, campers etc. – that was the charm of this community. Our lots and streets are too narrow to include these vehicles and block our view from house to house. The covenants that were in place when we moved here were one of the reasons that this community was attractive.

  • Linda McCormack

    says on:
    March 5, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    Kaitlin Corp. the builder for Loyalist Estates in Bath, requires all new home owners to sign a covenant when they buy their new home. It states that they will not part trailers, campers, boats or motor homes on their driveways.

  • Don Gardner

    says on:
    May 27, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    I strongly oppose changing this bylaw. I would like to see it enforced in our community.

  • Joe &Dorothy Ryan

    says on:
    May 29, 2017 at 9:39 am

    Leave this the way they are. People who can afford these toys can afford to pay to have them stored off site

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